That's the multiexperience, like a year ago I made my first medium size panel, it was dreadful. The tile generator in their website is a must, but they still have a long way to go with the project to have more clarity.
Is it that it's outdated, or that there are multiple ways to mount these? IMO both could have their (dis)advantages, i.e.: these occupy (use up) pegboard slots while the ones you've linked to occupy the larger threaded slots. I suppose, depending on your planned deployment, one of those may be preferable to you vs the other.
That said, does the current project documentation absolutely suffer for not making this all clear? 1000%. As a multibuild newcomer, it's all very overwhelming.
I'd much rather have 1/3 the customization options with 3x the documentation.
I ran into the same issue with #8 screws not working well so I just remixed the design to make it work properly. That version is here if you're interested:
Just double checked with some calipers, it's important to note (in terms of screw size selection) that the offset is 6.25mm but the full height (from top of screw hole) is 10mm. Also confirmed that the screw thread size for a #8 (for those of us with the misfortune of using imperial) is too large.
So for my case... I am going into 1/2" plywood (or 12.7mm) add 10mm for the pillar moint, so thats 22.7mm or about 0.89".
So I'm going to get #6x3/4" screws. Just enough to penetrate my plywood well
Official docs suggest to use #8 screws, 1” length. However my experience is those are too big, and often crack the offset (Mounting Pillar). I use #6 screws, 1.25” length for the 6.25mm offsets. If using 12.5mm offsets, best to go up to 1.5” length screws. Works equally well for the classic high-density Tiles and the newer large-grid Multibin Plate.
Source:
https://docs.multiboard.io/beginner-section/tile-mounting-guide#option-2-advanced-1
Am not up to the time investment of doing the remix, esp because my modeling skills are sub-par. But: Man, I'd pay someone good money to rebuild the board generator to include these in the model of the boards themselves. I'd put them at every intersection for stability, a major flaw I've found with this system is that it flexes when you try to insert things. What's a fair fee for this? $500? I'll pay!
For those who live in the US - I found that for "6.25 mm" pillar - Wood Screws #6, 1" - work great.
I got a 100-pack Everbilt at Home Depot for about $7 and they fit well with enough screw into the wall.
Mounted on drywall, no drywall anchors in my case (lite duty).
I am having the same issue, the #8 screw seems to big, It is hard to get it going. I also am really confused on the snaps, in the docs it said to use clips and also snaps, the core tiles (advanced) only have clip areas on a flat border.
What is the trick with these? I used the recommended screw for US dimensions, 8 x 1, pre-drilled my hole and when it comes time to drive the screw through the tile and pillar into my wood, the pillar just incessantly spins. I tried drilling a passthrough hole first in the pillar, but that just demolished the peg part that inserts into the tile.
Same here, it spins but I'm using a #8 screw. I don't have any right now, but I'm going to try some #6 screws. I don't see where the documentation says what size it just says length.
Discussions — 6.25 mm - Mounting Pillar
for as comprehensive as multiboard is, a lot of it is YOLO and just figuring out how to actually use stuff
I literally had to engage Claude in 3 separate chats because I ran out of context window 💀
That's the multiexperience, like a year ago I made my first medium size panel, it was dreadful. The tile generator in their website is a must, but they still have a long way to go with the project to have more clarity.
Can you possibly add a photo of this mounting pillar in use? Otherwise the description is useless. "offset" from what? "surface" of what?
Recently this was added to the documentation: https://docs.multiboard.io/beginner-section/tile-mounting-guide Hope this will help.
It would really help if he didn't keep changing his mind. This guide is already outdated. I'm using https://thangs.com/designer/Multiboard/3d-model/6.25%20mm%20-%20Single%20Bolt-Lock%20-%20ScrewOn%20Mount-1046002, which doesn't appear in any guide or the planner but I saw it on one of his videos. By the time you've discovered and printed 0.2% of some of his models, he's changed 20% of them.
Is it that it's outdated, or that there are multiple ways to mount these? IMO both could have their (dis)advantages, i.e.: these occupy (use up) pegboard slots while the ones you've linked to occupy the larger threaded slots. I suppose, depending on your planned deployment, one of those may be preferable to you vs the other.
That said, does the current project documentation absolutely suffer for not making this all clear? 1000%. As a multibuild newcomer, it's all very overwhelming.
I'd much rather have 1/3 the customization options with 3x the documentation.
It's used as a spacer to provide 6.25mm of clearance from between the wall and behind the board.
Offset from the surface you're attaching to. I'm mounting tiles to drywall (surface) and they will be 6.25mm away from the wall (offset).
Fixed the #8 Screw Issue
I ran into the same issue with #8 screws not working well so I just remixed the design to make it work properly. That version is here if you're interested:
https://than.gs/m/1507035
Just double checked with some calipers, it's important to note (in terms of screw size selection) that the offset is 6.25mm but the full height (from top of screw hole) is 10mm. Also confirmed that the screw thread size for a #8 (for those of us with the misfortune of using imperial) is too large.
So for my case... I am going into 1/2" plywood (or 12.7mm) add 10mm for the pillar moint, so thats 22.7mm or about 0.89".
So I'm going to get #6x3/4" screws. Just enough to penetrate my plywood well
Official docs suggest to use #8 screws, 1” length. However my experience is those are too big, and often crack the offset (Mounting Pillar). I use #6 screws, 1.25” length for the 6.25mm offsets. If using 12.5mm offsets, best to go up to 1.5” length screws. Works equally well for the classic high-density Tiles and the newer large-grid Multibin Plate. Source: https://docs.multiboard.io/beginner-section/tile-mounting-guide#option-2-advanced-1
Mounting Pillar: https://than.gs/m/1380149
Would be helpful to recommend how often you place these to gain stability without having 400 screws in a wall.
Love them and the fast print.
They say '4 per tile'. One in every corner: https://docs.multiboard.io/beginner-section/tile-mounting-guide
I also had issues with this part spinning while installing the mounting screws. I designed a very basic wrench to hold it in position while driving the screw. Feel free to modify as you see fit: https://thangs.com/designer/WScottCross/3d-model/Multiboard%20Pillar%20Wrench.stl-1538277?source=Recent
printing this before the install, hope it helps
Am not up to the time investment of doing the remix, esp because my modeling skills are sub-par. But: Man, I'd pay someone good money to rebuild the board generator to include these in the model of the boards themselves. I'd put them at every intersection for stability, a major flaw I've found with this system is that it flexes when you try to insert things. What's a fair fee for this? $500? I'll pay!
For those who live in the US - I found that for "6.25 mm" pillar - Wood Screws #6, 1" - work great. I got a 100-pack Everbilt at Home Depot for about $7 and they fit well with enough screw into the wall. Mounted on drywall, no drywall anchors in my case (lite duty).
They need to come up w these mounting standoffs printed on the Multiboard itself.
Nothing stops you from remixing. But just remember: just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
so you dont need offset snaps if you use this.
you still need snaps as I found out the hard way....
How so? By the looks of it, you just screw through the small holes in the tiles, no?
FYI, this model seems to have degenerate faces. Both Prusa Slicer and Fusion detect the errors and try to repair them.
This has a better view of how it is used:
https://beta.multiboard.io/mounting-systems?Mount+Type=Screw-on&Distance+From+Surface=6.25+mm+Offset+%28Recommended%29&Printing+Method=Individual
I am having the same issue, the #8 screw seems to big, It is hard to get it going. I also am really confused on the snaps, in the docs it said to use clips and also snaps, the core tiles (advanced) only have clip areas on a flat border.
What is the trick with these? I used the recommended screw for US dimensions, 8 x 1, pre-drilled my hole and when it comes time to drive the screw through the tile and pillar into my wood, the pillar just incessantly spins. I tried drilling a passthrough hole first in the pillar, but that just demolished the peg part that inserts into the tile.
Same here, it spins but I'm using a #8 screw. I don't have any right now, but I'm going to try some #6 screws. I don't see where the documentation says what size it just says length.